You suggest, " the scars of these cuts are becoming more apparent in people who would seem to have no emotional problems at all."

If you are cutting yourself, I think you;ve got a few issues to sort out.

Get out the prescription pad.

I'm surprised if the author of the article doesn't have a few problems of her own with a name like Katherine Spitz.

This teacher is clueless if she thinks it never went on 15 years ago.

Hell it's been going on a lot longer than most people think.

Seals (Navy) have been known to cut their arms durring times of stress to regain focus.

I had a teacher back in grade chool who was a former serviceman. He got pissed and went outside and started cutting. He tried to cover it up saying his wife scratched him. He ended up losing his job.

At least he didn't start shooting.

you're just a stupid, pill-popping dumbass.

No he's a pill prescription WRITING dumb-ass.

Big difference.

I think the grad 8 9 10 11 girls running around all dramatic, trying to get attention
but cutting should really stop. There are people with real problems, who do want to kill themselves
and actualy try to hide there cuts instead of flaunting them. I know people do this
im a grade 10 girl and ive seen way to much of this. Dont waste counselors time with this crap girls
let them do their job and help people that need help!!!! PLEASE

Yeah, I hate it when people do that. It's just not right

I have mixed feelings about this subject. I know people that did it for attention and would flash them off for people's sympathy. I know people who would do it and hide them and "accidentally" show you so they could get sympathy and I also know people who would do it and lie about why it was there. But all of these people do have some sort of problem. Even the ones starving for attention. They were not receiving attention from home, friends, or their significant other so they cut themselves because it was the only way they could think anyone would notice. Just because they're flashy doesn't mean they're drama queens. They really are lacking something in their life and can't just openly say that they are lonely or that human emotion and love is needed in their life. Most of the teens that do this aren't going to kill themselves and aren't crazy they're just feeling very lonely and disattached from society. They just need a friend to take their mind away from cutting themselves.

you know nothing about why some of us cut do you.No we don't have issues some of us just had a bad lifw and are afraid to ask for help cusz of the disapointment we think are parents will have so u need to ur mouth cusz u dont know what its like! you the one with the issues you dont even know what ur talking about!!!

This same person is posting all over the site. Notice the little AOLisms he uses, the bad grammar, and spelling. It is pretty consistant throughout his idiotic ramblings...

I have been a cutter and know cutters and none of you are looking at the other side of the problem! maybe we dont know anyone that can help us! maybe no one really cares! you guys all should think before you post stuff like that! me being a cutter it just makes me wanna cut more! THANX BUNCHES!!

It's my fault? Shit, I'm sorry. now quit it.

i agree...for everyones info i cut myself

I've read a lot about people and cutting, but i haven't found out what all people use. Some people use glass, the sharp end of a pencil, razor or even the metal on your soda can. If you would like to write back and tell me what you use then thank u for your help!

X-acto blades work nicely. It offers you a pencil like grip which is great dor drawing upon yourself.

Otherwise use a fucking serrated steak knife.

For too.

Those of you who post ridiculously lame stabs at the cutters who clearly have a disease, or the people who are seeking information to help those who are cutting are the dumbasses here. I would imagine from what I'm hearing that you have quite a few issues of your own; can you say "I have no balls and feel tremendous power when I pick on those weaker than I"?

Cutting, whether it started yesterday or has been around for years is a serious problem in today's society. Kids are so overwhelmed with life and they need a release. What happened to programs and leaders to give them something to do/learn in their "spare" time. I'm tired of all the new video games etc. and want to see more physical and social interaction among our youth!

Troll

I have been cutting my arms for about 2 years,recentlly My mum sent me to a therapist in order to let out my pain to him..instead of trying to bleed it out.I would just like to say...You people who think we have problems..your right we do.I was sexually abused twice.And I can never escape from knowing that.It's not about attention because it's shameful to let people see.It's about what we've been thru and what we are going thru and how hard life can be sometimes.Thanks for your time,
Rach.

How do you figure? They do work.

You are retarded. Anyone tell you that? Well, anyone that you remember or don't ignore the truth from? Heh.

Cutting has gone on for ages. Back when I was in School x-acto blades were the preferred choice. They have many different styles of blade that worked well.

Steak knifes cut well but you have to saw. Personal preference in that regard.

Troll.

"Cutting, whether it started yesterday or has been around for years is a serious problem in today's society. Kids are so overwhelmed with life and they need a release."

Don't be so melodramatic. For Christ's sake, kids in school were cutting themselves not for release but to "tattoo" themselves. Basically the same kind of idea behind heating a bic lighter really hot then burning a smiley face into your skin.

Remember how they were cutting themselves in the movie "Stand by Me?" It was a tatt showing they belonged in a game. Same goes on in juvenile facilities as well.

Lord people get their panties in a twist over the littlest things. Stereotypes abound.

Sorry you went through that.

Does the cutting actually provide you with a release? Or is it more of a distraction of thoughts?

How much cutting do you need to do to get over it? You will have it (the issues) the rest of your life, so will you cut the rest of your life? Do you really want to? Another outlet may be in order for the sake of your future.

:twocents:

I don't understand how you can say that.It's very dangerous especially if you cut to deep.I had to go to the hospital once because of it.Bleeding out the pain is better than facing what I can't change and have no control over.,
rach.

Back to the damned sheep theory - follow along and fear the act of standing up for yourself. Once you did it, did the problem magically disappear? Not very likely. Want to get rid of the pain by receiving pain? Seek out the area where you local gang mambers hang and tell them that they are all a bunch of losers and they could never kick YOUR ass. You'll get pain! Probably cut too.
If you want to do it to mark yourself as part of something, that's a different story. Back to the wise man who spoke of tattoos and smiley faces. So what?

How about registering so we know which AC we are talking to?

The only time it is dangerous is if you hit a vein. Are you cutting on wrists or other places that folks tend to cut like chest, Forarms, Upper arms, calves, thighs, stomach?

How do you bleed out emotional trauma? It is neither facing it or helping it. Have you tried running, or punching bags? Less damage and quite the exertion which can distract you from things for a while.

So what? Well, people need to stop looking for excuses as to why people do the things they do. PReconceived notions get folks into trouble.

Some folks do it for fun, others have issues.

I like pain, it gives me focus. I get irritable but I have focus. It also allows one to start tolerating more and more. I won't self inflict pain unless it's in the gym though. I gave up trying to "be cool" in school with the self tatts because it was retarded.

Everyone needs a way to cope. Sometimes those ways aren't the best but if it keeps you from killing yourself it's better than nothing. A way to cope until you learn another way which is beneficial may at times be necesary.

I totally agree! I mean, even though some cutters might show their cuts "accidently" i think that they have some issues in life that they are obvioulsy struggling with and need help but mostly are "hungry" if you may, for love and attention! I myself have problems somewat w/ "accidently" showing a scar... doesnt mean that i do it for fun or just to fit in wit the REAL cutters! Some of my closest friendz are cutters... and i know that every time they do it .... as well as me... our wanting to be told "its ok i love you dont worrie life will move on" That doesnt mean that thats their only issue is a will for sympathy... just means that they two need help...maybe not the same help or maybe even more... just help in general! Every "cutter" needs a angel...some more then others...but all deep down do!

Personally... this is BS! i think from experiece.. that wen im alone in my room at night and plan on doing it.. i dont think of wat i use... lke which kind of blade or steal knife.... i use wat ever the hell is sharp lying on my damn floor! dont argue over wat friggen knife is betta to use i think we should be helping others in the same kind of need.. not giving advise or debating over wat sharp damn object we use to cutt our own life away!

for the last two comments up there^^
first off for the first one: i can relate to how you feel, i dont know whethere the theripist helped you or not, but i think that they are just judgmental quacks saying that ur suiciadal and need to be locked up! not everyone that "cuts" does it for att. there is nothing wrong with it becuz everyone has some reason for doing what they do whether itz realease of stress, feeling love and support or just loving themselves more. not all "cutters" i like to refrer more as SI (self injurers) have been abused but i can relate. whethere it is mental or phyiscal abuse, cutting is a way of coping. people always say they are trying to "help" but really by takin away one of their only mechanisms of coping with anger/stress your putting them in more danger of doing worse...not ALL cutters are suicidal
second person: i dont know if you cut or not...but if you did you wouldnt be asking all those gay questions! your probably just one of those judgmental ppl that come on here to trash ppl who need help! well ur questions didnt really help me they just made me feel worse about it. once you cut or feel the urge, or even have an OUNCE of what these ppl feel...come talk to me, letz see what you say then

~*Meg*~

i totally agree with you. i mean ppl on here are sayin how "Cutters" are physcho and need help. but the way i see it is cutting is just a way of coping. you take that aways and they have nothing but killing themselves. i cut my self ever so often, i know many ppl that do, some flaunt it, some just need the love that symp. it comes from, others like me is just a way of dealing with their stress. cutters arent suicidal i personally think.....cuz if you REALLY wanted to kill urself...you would be out doing it, not sittin there slicin ur skin. everyone has their own way of dealing with thingz, some more drastic then others. and people shuldnt be so quick to judge and say ur suicidal becuz deep down ur just tryin to peace urself, realse anger, some may say itz a terrible way, but some ppl dont see another way out. itz like cutting away the thing that is tearing you down. i completely agree with you and neone that says we shuld be locked up....FUCK YOU. if i didnt cut i dont know what i wuld do with myself. you said some do it for fun, putting pain on urself can be amusing..sick sounding i know, but any kind of pain inflicted on you. just gettn back @ urself for all the shit you put other ppl thru.
Rock on you are like one of the only commentz i truly agree with in here cutting is just coping others do it differntly

~*Meg*~

i don't necassarly cut myself to bleed. It's the feeling of realef when you break through the skin and feel the pain for even the shortest while. It's not attention seeking it's to leave the F**ked reality that we live in.

Well then how about you just go and bleat elsewhere then hmmm? Don't come looking for attention here unless you really want it.

I can tell by your mannerism and thought process that you don't know shit.

You don't know what the other person is going through just as they don't know what you are goign through. Got it? The way to find out is to ask. It isn't gay to be concerned for someone you useless cunt.

If you bothered to read anything I have ever posted here you'll note that I was into "it" years ago when it was a fad. I did it for different reasons. Thus, your comment about me not knowing anything about it is baseless.

So how do you expect to have an ounce of what they feel unless you ask them what they are feeling to compare it to what you feel? Hmmm? Thought so you stupid fucking whore.

Next time you cut, do us a favor and cut your wrists.

Personally you weren't involved at the time so you are "BS."

Who the fuck is arguing about what is better to use? There is no argument. Go whore yourself out so you can buy yourself a fuckign clue.

You could help others a lot by killing yourself. Have a nice afterlife.

You do realize this post contradicts what you previously said in the other post about me not knowing what I'm talking about yes?

Do you even realize who you are typing to or replying to when you post? Do you even know where you are when you are sitting at the keyboard, bloody fingers holding a piece of broken glass, key's tacky from congealed blood, staring blankly while thoughts rumble through your skull...

Seek help fruit loop.

It's obvious you have more issues than just stress and coping.

I'm not a cutter so I don't know but I do know a few (three in fact) people that do it and I talk to them about it. One burns his hands with cigarettes, one burns his arms with friggin cigarette lighter from a car (I don't know how this hasn't become infected yet but man the holes to the muscles thing is nuts), and one with blades. From what they have told me I have come to this incomplete conclusion. There is something in their lives they don't have control of and they want control of it. It usually has to do with the welfare of something or someone (themselves or a family member) they care about significantly. The desire for action becomes so intense that they feel violence (the teeth biting and grinding kind) is their only solution for feeling any kind of satisfaction. They know right from wrong and instead of taking it out on someone or something else, they take it out on themselves. I haven't seen people do it for attention but I could see that happening.

I could be totally off but these are my perceptions.

Good luck to anyone with these problems, I feel it is a serious issue and my hopes are with you. I don't like seeing my friends hurting themselves.

Yep I can imagine some folks do it for those reasons too.

There are a lot of reasons people do a lot of things. Kind of sad when people hurt themselves because they feel they have no other choice. Better to hurt yourself for the fun of it or someone else when playign sex games. Nothing like a cat-o-nine tails. :D

Is that as opposed to Catherine Swallows?

We make you want to cut more? Okay - it's all our fault. Blame us. Isn't that why you cut anyway? You can't accept the blame for anything? Know what's wrong with most cutters? They need a larger blade and need to apply it to their throats. If you can't find a way to deal with the daily problems of life, simply exit.

Let this thread die already!

Let me guess- you "cutters" are almost exclusively teenaged white girls from upper-middle class families who let no need go unmet. Given your complete and total lack of real problems, you invent some. Now you need to draw attention to your meaningless, self-induced crisis... and become a "cutter".

Either cut deep enough to finish the fucking job already, or stop being such whiny, self-absorbed little bitches and go volunteer at a soup kitchen, hospital or somewhere where you'll be introduced to people with actual problems- as opposed to the trite, meaningless bullshit you force yourself to get worked up about.

"Let me guess- you "cutters" are almost exclusively teenaged white girls from upper-middle class families who let no need go unmet."

Which type of cutter are you referring to? the Noir, self-pitying types who do it because they "need" to or all the folks who cut upon themselves regardless of reason?

I would argue that those who are into self scarification or self tattooing aren't the spoiled brat types you mention but the others who are having pity-parties are.

"total lack of real problems"

Well I'm not sure they have a lack of real problems, or at least some of them do have real problems. Take teens who were abused as children or molested, etc.

I'm not talking about the body art types, but rather the majority of the posters above who do it for attention and to deal with all the "stress" they believe they're under.

Do a few have "real problems"? Probably- note I said almost exclusively. I suspect the vast majority are exactly as I described- those "suffering" not from a disease or any real problems but merely a selfish desire for attention and an overprivileged upbringing.

"merely a selfish desire for attention and an overprivileged upbringing."

Isn't that a disease (mental retardation of sorts) and a real problem? The kids are never taught to grow up.

The word "disease" has become overused. A disease is an illness caused by a germ, chemical imbalancce or genetic flaw over which the victim has no control. I don't subscribe to the notion that every moral or personal failing- "cutting", drinking, gambling, overeating, etc is an indication of a "disease". If mere willpower or talking about it can remedy the problem it... it ain't a disease.

Now you are being pendantic.

You just feel a need to turn everything into an argument... even when the other person agrees with you. For fuck's sake grow up dickhead.

You asked a question.

I gave you my answer.

If you don't want my opinion, then don't reply to my posts; better yet just do us all a favor and STFU already.

I was being facetious you twit. Did you really think there was an actual question being posed to you in a serious manner in regards to your insulting commentary of cutters? Hello? McFly?

You are without a doubt the dumbest fucking cunt on Foo.

Now you're just being a troll. I'm not in the feeding mood right now. Sorry.

Mental diseases are not as black and white as you try to make them. You say that will-power or talking about something are remedies for something that is not a disease. What if will-power or talking are "medications" for a disease? Alcoholism has been shown to be passed on from generation to generation thus it is genetic. If it's genetic and problem it's a genetic defect affecting an organ thus it is a disease. This is just one case in many.

However I really do not think that cutting is a disease. I think it is a symptom of a mental disorder resulting in poor parenting and living in a shitty environment. This by definition is a disease but I do agree that this over uses the word. If a brain is normal and it forced into abnormality tendencies (poor social habits, cutting, etc.) is it therefore abnormal in itself? Or is it a normal brain just with abnormal tendencies? To me that is where the line is drawn, if the brain was forced into something, it is not a disease, but if it was due to sickness or a genetic defect than it is a disease. Hope that makes some sense.

Ha. You are a fucking pussy. A trolling pussy. I originally thought you had a pair. I was wrong.


Oooh look I admitted I was wrong yet again.

Troll.

most of you here dont understand why we cut our selves it releases stress some of you never have to cope with problems cuz your lives are easy it makes us feel better and some how we feel better

Im a little fucked up right now,ive been standing a 24hr post and im about 19hrs into it.but its all cool,I should have read the contract beforen i sighned it.hah.Listen to all you cutters out there ,I had a pretty fucked up life myself,and at times was suicidal but i knew I had to face my problems and deal with them I.Believe it or not ,theres actually a lot of peaple out there who dont whant to see you hurt yourself.take myself for example ,im not a christian or anything but the people at church re4ally cared about me wether they knew me or not..Sometimes it just helps to tell somebody who cares whats going on.If you let all that shit build up you end up cutting yourself ,or worse.

I totally agree with you, there are so many reasons that I don't tell my parents about what I do but the number one reason is cause I don't want them to think I am crazy or even worse to disown me! I don't want them to ever find out about what I do I think it just takes the stress anxiety and worys off my shoulders!

i totally agree when some one talks about it it makes me wanna cut more to hide the anxiety that i really do it i am a 10th grader and i know it scares me of what i do but i just cant seem to stop

i don't cut myself, so im not sure i have all of your perspective, but to me, cutting is like drinking or smoking. its something stupid that cowardly people do because they can't deal with their problems.

There are folks that smoke not because they need a way to deal with problems.

There are people who drink because they like the taste and buzz. Your logic is faulty.

I usually don't tell anyone I do it... but most my friends have found out... I don't like them knowing, i don't want them to get caught up in my life... I was "supposed" to have quit last time my friends know about it was all the way up my arm, 27 times, Tuesday, Feb 10. I've been doing it along my waist now... nobody ever looks there... I just can't handle life and I have constant mood swings... My mom thought I quit in early January. she said she didn't consider me a cutter... I cut that night too... I've been doing it for about two years, when I was in sixth grade. now I'm in eighth and this year is the first anyone found out about it... My friend Ashley is trying to quit too...she barely does cat scratches... every time i do it there is blood all over my razor blade... Most of it is from school where I don't fit in or from my parents... I just can't live up to their expectations... They want a straight A student, I have a C in algebra... I'm taking a ninth grade course and passing, they should be happy!!!!!!!!! And my mom has always made me feel ugly, stupid, and untalented... Yet I have many people tell me I'm beautiful, I'm called a genius, and I've had quite a few solo's, had a painting in an art museum in our town, which someone wanted to buy my picture, and I've had 4 of my poems published. My mom I believe is jealous because she didn't live up to her self expectations and now wants me to live to be what she wanted to be... But I threw away my razors now and I have been pissed since... I'm probably going to steal another one soon... Please, if you do it too, I need someone to talk to.... antiprep_ishot2008@yahoo.com girlygirl_ishot2008@excite.com girlygirl_ishot@bolt.com please reply...

SHUT THE FUCK UP! WHEN YOU HAVE A LIFE AS FUCKED UP AS SOME OF US DO YOU TELL ME THAT ITS STUPID! ITS MY ONLY WAY OUT SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!! YOU DON'T KNOW ME AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT MY LIFE IS LIKE AND UNTIL YOU DO, SHUT UP ABOUT WHAT I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M IN 8TH GRADE AND HAVE BEEN CUTTING MY FUCKING ARMS SINCE 6TH. I DO IT BECAUSE MY LIFE FUCKING SUCKS AND NOBODY DOES A SINGLE FUCKING THING TO KEEP FROM GETTING SO PISSED OFF THAT I NEEDED A WAY OUT! SO I FOUND OUT THAT THE FUCKING BLOOD, SHINEY AND WARM, RUNNING DOWN YOUR ARM FROM A CUT 3 INCHES LONG AND 1/2 AND INCH TO AN INCH DEEP IS THE BEST DAMN WAY TO FEEL GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU JACKASS!

ok well i have been cutting myself for a week or so and only 3 or my friends know and they all freak and told me to stop and i told them i would but i havent anyways i started cutting because of my 5 closest friends being mad at me and over my ex boy friend ok heres what i want to know I have been cutting for a week or so like i said and i cut myself with sisors and i push really hard and i cant get myself to bleed only make deep scratches so does that make me a cutter????????

Because of what your intentions are whether you are successful or not, yes, you are a cutter.

If you really want to bleed use somethign sharper and don't press to hard. No sense doing extra damage or screwing your body up too much.

Keep it shallow and clean.

Hope things get better.

look im in 7th grade and i guess you could say i have been cutting since 4th... but never really that deep and it has never really left a long-lasting scar. but the other day i went really deep on my arm and it bled a lot. it's pretty gross now and i just want to know if it is going to leave a scar for a long time. i really hope not because honestly you dudes r the first people i have told and all that shit. i just want to know if i will be able to wear shortsleeves without a band again
thanks

If you're a guy, just leave the scar showing, chicks love that sort of thing.

since your a guy in 7th grade (Iam a girl in 7th grade) u can say u hurt ur self by playing with fire or messing around with knives or what ever guys our age always hurt them selves soo if some one sees it they will just think o that dumb ass LOL i was a cutter but i stopped. find one great friend or girl u can tell if u want the help if u cut like this any more times do tell some one u can trust even tho i dont no u I LOVE U! and hope ur plan in life gets better
kisses1011

If this is how 7th graders write I'm worried about our future. And to think I'm self-conscious because I forget a comma here and there.

Props on showing the support though.

You probably should have butterfly taped it but since you didn't it shouldn't be too bad. I had a fairly deep cut on my arm heal fair enough.

Just a small white line for a scar.

wow, who decided i was a guy... im... not but im really thankful for the support and that you answered my ?. it helps a lot to know that there are other people who have been through this stuff and i can talk about it with... and you wont tell my principle or n e thing.

HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE GIVE ADVISE AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING SO HORRIBLE AND DISCUSTIN WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT??????? I DON'T APPROVE OF THIS KIND OF.... PAIN HOTLINE AND IT SHOULD STOP IMMEDIATLY..... YOU ARE HELPING EACHOTHER KILL YOURSELVES!!!!!!! DO YOU NOT SE HOW CREEPY AND DISTURBED THIS IS?!?!?!?! WIERDOS WHO NEED HELP!!!!!!!!

ok

How can you be such a dipshit and type in all caps?

The advice is so the people who will do it regardless of what others say, do it safely.

As for helping to kill eachother... there will be only one.

Get a life tard.

Did you ever know that you're my hero,
and ev'rything I would like to be?
I can fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.
;-)

people who cut themselves aren't stupid. They just could have emotional problems and can't deal with stress easily

I've only been cutting for two months and i hate to do it but it helps so much. I have constant mood swings. My dad thinks i'm going through Pms all the time. I also always have blood all over my razor. I've only throughn mine away once but took one from my mom when she was out one day. I cut myself on my stomach for right now. I'm not quite sure where else to cut instead.

man i found somewere were im not alone with my problem i have so many issues so i started to cut a while ago and it has been a secrect to my parents
cuz there holy bitches that think that God is every thing and they never want to answer me from there point of veiw its always what the bible says and it really stoopid cuz they base everything from that and it really doeznt hurt so yes and my sister found out and she said she would help me but that bs she is using it as a way to blackmail me and if any one is having problem and want to talk about it you can email me at DEVILSX3@HOTMAIL.COM or I M me on AIM its: Twistedminds301
i need 2 cent :twocents: lol

My parents nor friends have found out about me cutting myself and just for your FYI i don't think my parents would care. I don't think they actually notice me. I'm second oldest of four kids and my mom and i are constantly fighting and my dad is always at work. I hate my life. i always have to take care of my little sister because my mom doesn't want to. I've only been cutting myself for a year. My younger sister has suspected something because to her, " im different since the past year," but i don't think im much different, much.

Hey if anyone body wants to talk e-mail me courtneybrown11@msn.com

OMG! Is it really you? I thought you left the site never to return...Of course, I thought that I wouldn't either, yet I did the same thing.

I wanna cut you all real bad real deep.......cutting is ass for fucks sake and dont come back with wawawah you havent had it as bad as I have, think of all those poor bastards that dont have say, clean water and are raped as a matter of tribal rite of passage they got it bad you fuckin sooks. Man up!

Grab a joint, hang with mates, go and draw your name on a wall whatever but dont cut yourself ......puuuuuuulllleeeeeeeez!!!!

Pathetic cant face life little babies you will grow up and learn what a wonderful world we live in I promise................just think positive tomorows always better as long as you are alive and well!!!!

i hate u cuz ur a fag wtf dont post this is to help with there problems so shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

when i cut it is usually on my arms. But now that my gay parents found out, i cut right above my private area. Also on my legs so it doesn't seem so noticeable.

Trust me it works.

OH YA... the razor thing... DO NOT USE RUSTY RAZORS. if you do , you WILL get this "locked jaw" thing that your jaw will lock and you will have to get fed through a feeding tube. So never leave your razor wet or bloody.

Ok here's a little info.

Rust != tetanus (lockjaw)

Tetanus is a bacterial disease that affects the nervous system. Tetanus can be contracted even through animal bites. the bacteria is found in soil, dust, and manure. Iron oxide or rust is not what causes tetanus.

Deep puncture wounds are more susceptable to the infection of this bacteria.

The reason they call the disease lockjaw is because the bacteria creates a toxin that hits the central nervous system causing severe muscle spasms. It can get so severe that the bones in your body break because of all the contractions. Ribs will break, your mouth won't open, teeth will break, your pelvis can snap, etc.

Probably 11% of tetanus cases are fatal. In order to treat the bacteria/toxin they have to start by supplying your system with an antitoxin and give penicillin to kill the C. tetani bacteria. They can use other antibiotics like clindamycin, erythromycin, or metronidazole if you are allergic to penicillin.

They will also ned to remove the source of the bacteria/toxin in the wound through debridement which is a pretty thourough cleaning of the wound.

They also need to administer strong muscle relaxants like diazepam to control the spasms. Sometimes sedation is necesary.

If you need to confirm this info, do a google search for tatanus to findo ut what it is and look up treatments.

Again if the point went over your head, rust does NOT equal tetanus.

I have been a cutter for a year and I feel like suicide now.... what should I do?

I have attempted suicide before when I cut myself to deep. I had cut my wrist 67 times adn was sittng in a puddle of blood faited out cold. Ten my dad came in and realized what I had done and called 911. I'm only a freshman (9th grade) in high school and life sucks. Everyone thinks I have everything, but I don't and I have a boyfriend that wants to die too. I just visited this site for the first time and I read all this shit about suicide is diffrent from cutting... well maybe it is but don't argue over what to use or who does it worse jsut help eachother understand it and try to get through this because it won't last forever.
~cate~

Suicide is never the answer. You might think that death is a way to solve your problems but it is only a cowardly way of running away from them - remember - what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
And if you think about the hundreds of millions of people out there in the world who are dying because they have no food, or being killed because of their race, it brings into perspective how well off you are.
If you think that suicide will help stop emotional/physical pain then you wouldn't be able to appreciate this percieved release of pain if you kill yourself because you would be dead and would have no consious thought or feeling.

I suggest you see/talk to someone you trust and I'm sure they will make you see that your problems can be tackled and that life is something that should be enjoyed and savoured - because - hey - you only have one life to live - so make the most of it by living it.

/gets off soapbox

ok thanks I'll think about that... but yeah never mind I'm here your a good soul I'm feeling a bit better about myself... I'll just wait to see what others on this site talk about.
~cate~

darling please dont try to kill yourself, life may be shitty but thats not the way. this goes to everyone too

none of you kill yourselves please.

why not?

what dont you have to live for?

I really don't know what there is to live for so I just figure that if living is hard, then dying must be easy. Maybe if I was with my God, my creator, then My God might actually care about me. I feel forgotten and lost. After everyone was done feeling bad for me after I attempted suice, then I was just left is solitude once again. You people are the first to tell me not to. It's not that people tell me to go kill myslef. It's just that if I mention it, they just don't say anything. I'm like the girl who cried wolf or something. If you try suicide once and it doesn't work, then no one takes you seriously when you say, "This time I really am going to kill myself." Then I just feel like I have to prove them wrong and show them that I'm not kidding. But then if I'm dead I wouldn't be around to admire the affection I would be getting. So I'm really confused about my emotions,... I can see that. I still feel though that if I keep cutting people will just shrug me off and say I don't have a problem, and I'm just looking for attention. Of course everyone knows that they have to squeeze it out of me when I cut. I don't see what is be so attention starving about me. So maybe if I die they wouldn't have to worry about me cutting at all. I don't know,... I really don't.
~Cate~

cate,
hi iam sorry you life is hard mine is 2 so dont feel so bad i know it seems hard to life right now but things will get better i promise you. how old are you?...... well try some thing new to meet new friends like start going to church or youth group or something or go to the comunity (cant soell sorry) center. god has a greater plan for you, so if its hard now he made it hard for you to make you stronger and better. dont let or sadness controle you, you are better then that i can tell by your writing ok? ok xoxo bu bye
~*~brandi~*~
p.s e-mail me please! that goes from any one else who needs to talk about this or anything my e-mail addy is : brandi914@foxinternet.net

I really feel for you. I don't quite know what to say other than I can see that you must be suffering. I know that there was a point in my life when I just couldn't understand why anyone would want to live. My life isn't that bad anymore and I want you to know that I have been through more than most and my life is okay. Your's can be too. I had three different sets of parents give me away and my life still isn't that bad. There are other things I have been through too but I guess what I want you to know is that if you just hang tough, even though it won't always be good, life is managable. Talk to me if you need to or better yet, find a woman your age and talk to her.

what about your family? friends? anything that makes you happy? if you die then you will let it all win, do you really want that? instead of letting that happen, go out, channel all of your feelings into something great, then maybe you will find happiness, write, paint, read, play music, the list is endless. if you feel that god is not careing about you here then why would you want to be with him? how do you know that once you are dead he wont ignore you? as for your feelings of being forgotten and lost, we all feel this way. you are young arent you? well it takes time to figure out where we fit in. what is wrong with solitude? no one actually follows that crap wolf story anyway and suicide is different. if you look for help you will surely get it. look at what people are telling you and understand the truth. dont be delusional. yeah you do get affection because you are liked! people will never say that. if you die then they will worry that you are dead. which is alot worse. look if you want more of my help email me at mrs_warner@hotmail.com my names amanda, that goes to everyone too

You may not want to wait to hear what others on the site say.

The reason is that there are a lot of dipshits out there that want to cause trouble and would say what they could just to get you to do it. They have no sense of humanity and should be shot.

For once I have to agree with what Hoochie says, at least for the most part. I have other reasons to toss in there but they won't mean anythin to you if you aren't a Christian.

Your God and your creator didn't create you to kill yourself. He created you to live your life. After all, why would he bother creating you if he didn't want you to live life?

God is patient and he knows when he'll have you at his side. Don't rush him. Let him take and prepare the way properly. Suicide will just piss him off ;)

Get yourself plugged into a church or talk with a pastor (or yours if you are involved with chursh) as soon as you can. Tell them how you feel. They won't berate you for it and will listen.

It may sound like a load of shit but I turned my life around when I decided to give myself to Christ. I went from a horrid existance to enjoying life, having a beautiful wife whom I love dearly and support for all my troubles from friends, family, and church.

Have you talked with a conselor or psychotherapist? If the church thing isn't your cup of tea, I would suggest talking with someone who is qualified to help you. If you cannot afford it, there are many places to get free counseling.

It sounds like the people who you want to care aren't going to no matter how much you try to make them. Don't do anything for them or because of them. Take care of yourself and start thinking of yourself instead. I can only presume you are talking about your family when you mention the people who don't seem to care.

You have strangers here thinking you deserve better and are worth saving. That should speak volumes.

Now if you don't mind I have a few questions...

Why is life so hard? What exactly seems to be the problem? (Aside from not getting thelove you obviously need from those who are close to you.)

If there was anything you could have or ask for in life, what would it be?

Do you know why you hurt? If so can you share it? If you don't feel like discussing it publicly, I would be happy to talk with you in private about it.

/minister mode kicking in

Doh, almost forgot.

Everyone who is posting their email addys, you may not want to do that because of email harvesters.

Should you feel the need to do so, try a format that isn't picked up by the harvesters.

For example if you are at a hotmail address you could try Hotmail.com: Username

Comcast.net username:username or even name AT msn.com Spam makes baby Jesus cry. Makes me want to kill myself. I can only handle a dick so big :D

Life is just another chapter in my book. It's like there's a book that I write everyday. And there are three sections... 1. Before I was born 2. Life and 3. After I die....... The section before I was born is as long as the history books before me. Then comes the Life section. Everyday is a new chapter. My chapeters of hurting myself go all the way back to when I was six years old. (this mihgt also answer your question of why I hurt...) I used to think that if I was hurt then I would get sympathy not disiplin. I was adopted when I was 3 days old, by a foster family because my parents were only eighteen when they had me and they were obviously not married. Then when I was 2 months old I was adopted by the parents I live with now. They gave me everything made me feel special, but when they told me about my "life" before i lived with them (haveing two sets of parents and one being eighteen) then I began to wonder if they really wanted me. If the parents I live wiht now really wnat me around. Maybe they would be better off wiht out me.
If there was anything I could ask for in life is to meet my birth parents. I want to see how many more kids they have had to g around and wonder why they were given up. I think that my birthmom was a horrible person because I have three older siblings that I don't even know about. God knows how many yonger ones I have. I am only in the nineth grade and I am 14 years old and seriously thinking about ending my life. Cutting is only the next best thing because I still get to see the blood, but I'm not dead yet so I still have time to seek the help that might convince me that I shouldn't die. this site is really helping realixze this because I have others to talk to it about. So I'm just saying thanks.

If the parents I live wiht now really wnat me around. Maybe they would be better off wiht out me.

You don't need to wonder. They wanted you. If they didn't you wouldn't have grown up in the home you grew up in. It isn't like they pay people to take unwanted kids :)

I'm sure they love you very much. They were being honest with you by telling you the truth. Have you tried asking them what they felt or wanted?

If there was anything I could ask for in life is to meet my birth parents. I want to see how many more kids they have had to g around and wonder why they were given up.

And are the options of looking them up not available to you? I don't know exactly what your situation is so I can't speculate too much, but sometimes you can find out information once you are 18 or if your current guardian says it's ok.

I think that my birthmom was a horrible person because I have three older siblings that I don't even know about.

Which is why I have to ask, why bother looking for her then? If they (whoever it was that removed you fromt heir care/custody) did so, they had to have a good reason.

I am only in the nineth grade and I am 14 years old and seriously thinking about ending my life. Cutting is only the next best thing because I still get to see the blood, but I'm not dead yet so I still have time to seek the help that might convince me that I shouldn't die. this site is really helping realixze this because I have others to talk to it about. So I'm just saying thanks.

If you want to see blood, just don't use a pad or tampon :D

Seriously though, ONLY 14. So what isn't there to live for? Booze, pot, pharmaceuticals... sex! (kidding about the drugs) You have a lot of life left to live.

Seriously though there are plenty of reasons to go one that aren't so shallow. you have plenty of time to grow up, make new friends, develop lovign relationships, etc.

What kind of conversations have you had with your parents (your current guardians,) and what reasons have they given you to make you think they don't care about you? Discuss them if they are open to it. If they are not, talk with your school counselor.

Don't get sucked into thinking suicide is a good thing. Don't follow other people's ways of thinking in regards to it. Don't trap yourself into thinking that it is the best option because it isn't.

Being only 14, there is a lot you have to look forward to. Start focusing on the good things like getting a good education so you aren't retarded like the majority of Foobs here, enjoy being young, enjoy loving yourself and God. Put God first in your life and things will begin to fall into place.

You have got me all confused now, I apreciate everything you have said and yet I still feel suicidal at the same time. I just don't know what to do. Or what to think.... I can tell you though, that for today I feel better after reading that. I can't promise you that I won't feel suicidal tomorrow, but I can only hope. It's better if I hope each day than promise it for the future. Take it one step at a time right?. Thanks alot you guys.. We kind of got off the topic of cutting and got into the suicide business, but I'm sure they are related in some way. thanks again.
~cate~

Mad World
Micheal Andrews and Gary Joules

All around me are familiar faces
Worn out places, worn out faces
Bright and early for their daily races
Going nowhere, going nowhere
And their tears are filling up their glasses
No expression, no expression
Hide my head I want to drown my sorrow
No tomorrow, no tomorrow

And I find it kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I'm dying
Are the best I've ever had
I find it hard to tell you
'Cos I find it hard to take
When people run in circles
It's a very, very
Mad World

Children waiting for the day they feel good
Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday
Made to feel the way that every child should
Sit and listen, sit and listen
Went to school and I was very nervous
No one knew me, no one knew me
Hello teacher tell me what's my lesson
Look right through me, look right through me

You have got me all confused now, I apreciate everything you have said and yet I still feel suicidal at the same time. I just don't know what to do. Or what to think.... I can tell you though, that for today I feel better after reading that. I can't promise you that I won't feel suicidal tomorrow, but I can only hope. It's better if I hope each day than promise it for the future. Take it one step at a time right?. Thanks alot you guys.. We kind of got off the topic of cutting and got into the suicide business, but I'm sure they are related in some way. thanks again.
~cate~

Rev you are a two faced piece of shit. In your own, recently posted article, you give these tips to suicidal people:

He was described as the joking, fun-loving, kid that wouldn't have done anything like this. Well the kid got the attention he wanted. So what would cause the class clown to do something like this? Maybe we should ask our resident clown Juan for some insight. At any rate, read further for a few tips when you decide to pull shit like this.


Tip 1: Use high caliber ammunition. No one wants to see your sorry ass sit around and bleed to death.

Tip 2: Rifles are not the best choice for suicides unless it is at least a 30-06 and you place the barrel under your chin.

Tip 3: It's funnier when you blow off limbs first.

Tip 4: If you want attention make sure people are watching.

Tip 5: If you are going to kill yourself do it in a nice quiet place away from others so you don't disrupt their fucking lives with your bullshit. No one wants to see that shit. For fuck's sake, the rest of the kids lives are going to be scarred in some way and that's without actually seeing it happen in front of them.

Now I realize people will of course jump on me for my callous attitude regarding this but I'm sick and tired of little dipshits like this pulling this kind of crap i public places like SCHOOLS. [link]

Hm so does that mean you are going to kill yourself for your lack of humanity? I hope the anon identified as "Cate" won't even listen to your diatribe when she sees that you are an attention seeking LIAR.

Ok Juan here we go again. Time for me to point out how much of an idiot you are...

Take note of the context in which the "tips" were given.

Take note that I have an issue with people who will go into a school to kill themselves.

Take note that if people are going to kill themselves they should do so in private.

Take note that when people need help I'll be there for them.

Take note than you are a fucking cunt.

Why don't you do everyone here a favor and jump out a 5th floor window. Feet first if you please, I'd rather watch you suffer before you die.

Take note that it isn't a lack of humanity that caused that last comment. I feel for humanity which is why I made the request. The world would be better off without a fucking useless waste of skin like you.

Happy trolling.

:yay:

Confused how?

The only promise some of us will ask is that you keep coming back for more Foo :D that should be more than enough to live for. I mean hell, we have Juan to torment. What's better than that? ;)

If you are really feeling down say something. There is ususally someone on at any given time who can talk to you and maybe help out.

I happen to work the day shift and don't usually check Foo at home but others are on.

Plus you can't leave until you start playing Unreal Tournament with the rest of us first :D It will be good times with all the trash talking.

Hope to talk to/see you tomorrow.

~RJ

P.S. Hey Ricky, if Cate gave you an email address can you forward mine to her in private? That way I can give her some info so she can get in touch with me if she needs any help. It would be appreciated :D

IF YOU CUT yourself your gay stupid and need to die because your not smart enough to deal with oyur problems like a person should. Thats it its simple.

Hey fuckwad.

You're too stupid to use the internet. Perhaps YOU should kill yourself.


It has nothing to do with intelligence fucktard. "Clearly" you prove the point by your posting. You aren't capable of forming coherent thoughts nor expressing them. You are an imbecile but manage to cope.

I hope to God this isn't some sick joke considering the circumstances. This trolling is in very poor taste. As a matter of fact... hey Ricky, considering the issue at hand, can you delete the post above?

Looks like the asshole is on a corporate network in NY.

I am happy that you are feeling better today. Some days suck honey, that's just the way it is, but if you'll take the time to find some things you enjoy, and maybe one or two GOOD friends, not a bunch that mean little, I think you'll find that life can be even more than bearable, maybe even downright fun sometimes. Cate as a woman, although you are young, you have it in you to be one of the kindest, most beautiful creatures that God has ever put on this planet.

This world would be ugly without the warmth and beauty all women possess and I am not saying anything dirty at all right now. I mean that this world without the soft care of a woman (like mothers and grandmothers) would just be terrible. Don't cut yourself. Please don't. I have never even seen you and I can tell that you are very nice. That quality, I want you to know, has a worth that is more valuable than any other quality. Know that. That is what you are worth.

Do you see this? 66.80.212.66..... Do you know what that is and what it means used in conjunction with the time you posted you stupid motherfucker? It means that I can quite possibly rain on your parade at work you fucking schmuck. Leave her alone bitch or I will make it a point to fuck your whole day up.

That just so happens to be the number of your work station in your cubicle or office, whatever the case may be, suddenly you're not so fucking anonymous. You had better go find another site to play on or at least leave the kid alone motherfucker. It is people like you that I just can't fucking stand. I'll make it a point to fuck you up. Not physically either... your pocket book, your job, we can go on from there. Kick rocks bitch.

We should contact Megapath.net and let them know what is going on. Have them contact the police because this is a serious issue when it comes to egging someone on to suicide.

I do believe it is a criminal offense.

We have the IP address, the time and the posts to give them. If they choose nto to do something about the user ont heir network they will be just as liable.

I'm going to track it down and contact his damn boss. Most things in life are attached to one's pocket book and how long is his honey going to like him if he is jobless? In fact, I think I'll do both. Good going Rev.

Thanks for doing the leg work. :yay:

Finally a Foobie that actually has something to offer. Wait a sec, we HAVE sunk to a new low :D

YOU GUYS ARE MY HEROS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CARING! i'M TRYING TO GET HELP NOW AND TELLING MY GUIDENCE COUNSELOURS AT SCHOOL ABOUT HOW I FEEL. THANKS AGAIN!
~CATE~

i understand you, i went through a stage like that when i was your age. I never harmed myself though but i was really depressed. I was bad at school, i had problems at home, my father just died, i had no friends nearly.
I was very convinced me too and i nearly did it. but it happened something...when i was about to do something and i just...stop
Then i spoke with a friend about it and he really helped a lot, i saw a psicologist too.
It really helped a lot, i dont want you to hurt yourself, please dont do and dont listen to those guys that encourage you to do something stupid with your life.

If you ask yourself if your parents loved you, i asked myself the same question many times...and i do know my parents.

You know...youre so young, if you die, you will miss a lot of beautiful things. I cannot promisse you a great life but at least i can say that it worked for me.
I got better at school, i made new friends i found a boyfriend, i travelled the world, went to parties, etc.
Now many years after i realize that if i had commited such a stupid thing in that moment i would have missed all that.

There will be always sad moments but you gotta be strong enough to carry on. I believe you can do it, so girl dont do anything dumb.

I believe you can find happiness in this life in some way.

And about your friends you can try asking an apologie if you did something bad, "im sorry" is a great word to begin with, they probably miss you and they will forgive you.

I really hope this is you and not some trolling AC. IF it is, I'm glad you are getting the help you need and deserve.

Keep checking back with us and let us know how you're doing or just stop by to chat :)

Well both of those IP addresses are in Massachusetts so hopefully that was her.

The first one was a school computer. Merrimack Education, the second may be a private computer at home.

I think you know my style of writing.

I think you know I don't AC.

I think you know I'll sign my name when I'm not signed in.

And come on, why the hell would I wade in on this topic? I'm the funny guy.

Course you don;t know your head from the 5 holes in your ears, so I wouldn;t expect you to know who the hell you are conversing with.

Yes that was me cate posting those, sorry I wasn't signed in. And yes I was at school then at home so... yes it is me and I'm getting help. I will gladly stick around here and tell you how I'm doing. This was a great thing for me and I'm glad that I found this site to go on. Thanks again guys you are teh grestest!
~Cate~

I think you know my style of writing.

I know your style(S) of writing. So you are only partially correct.

I think you know I don't AC.

I know you DO AC. so you think wrong.

I think you know I'll sign my name when I'm not signed in.

Not when you are trying to troll properly. So you again are only partially correct. The only time you "sign" your name to it is when you think there is a question as to who it could possibly be trolling.

And come on, why the hell would I wade in on this topic? I'm the funny guy.

Because you are an asshole 24/7.

Course you don;t know your head from the 5 holes in your ears, so I wouldn;t expect you to know who the hell you are conversing with.

I suppose there could be some accuracy there. All of you ashole start running together after a while. However you happen to be the one that is a bit more sullied than the rest. You would be the one that is constantly spasming from the reaming I'm giving you all the time.

You may think you are funny but I don't. I think you are a dick. Frankly, one that I don't trust to not cause trouble in a serious situation. I don't believe you are adult enough to know when to stop -- as an example this thread is the time to stop.

Until it is proven otherwise you will be highly suspect. If you were to provoke someone to suicide I'd be inclined to hunt you down and punish you severely. Do not pass go, head straight to hell.

If you are claiming otherwise, maybe it's time to start showing that you can and are different than people think. You have a lot to do if you are to prove otherwise.

As are you...

Good job Cate. You've shown to be a hell of a lot smarter than the majority of Foobies here. :D

That alone is worth living for. The world needs intelligent people who aren't anything like the typical Foob. I hope you enjoy your stay :yay:

Thanx again!
~cate~

then again let me tell you about my day. It jsut seems taht as I start to realize that I want to stop cutting and thinking suicide, it's like I pick it out of every conversation there is. Like in one of my classes today there was a teacher moching the suicide involved in the play of Romeo And Juliet. And some girl in that class was laughing and said that suicidal people are phsycotic! That got me really upset. Not to mention that in spanish it jsut so happens teh word of the day is "to cut". then he had us conjugate the verb the first congugation is I cut myself. then the teacher was like, "and then also referring to kill oneself, which is crazy adn not needed not very plesant experience." that was really pissing me off too. the some other kid was joking around and said I cut myself, I slit my wrist. Okay nooo! I know he did not jsut say that. I went to the bathroom and cried for like ten minutes. Grrrr! But so far I have stopped myself from cutting myself tonight becaseu of such a stressful day. thanks again guys!
~cate~

Tell your counselor and express your desire to either remove yourself from these lessons or talk with the principal. Get them to instruct the teachers to back off. They probably aren't aware of it and it should be best handled through the proper channels (i.e. counselor and principal) rather than talking to each teacher individually.

As soon as you feel things welling up inside you go straight to the counselor's office. Don't wait or ask for permission from the teachers. Leave and talk to the people that can help you.

Ask your counselor if they can help you get connected with a real counselor/therapist who can actually help more so. You are a minor but you are entitlted to the help so even if your parents don't want to pay for it someone has to help you.

Also, if you are involved with church, talk with your pastor and ask him for help getting a counselor etc. I'm sure the church will be glad to help you out as well.

Keep on plugging away Cate, you're doing fine. :)

Rev, I'm not sure how to reply to your accusations. I guess I will ignore them.

You, of course, cannot see my level of humor as usually you are the butt of my jokes.

I, of course, don't need to prove anything to you. Thanks for the pep talk though, dad. After the pep talk are you gonna beat mom?

I just think its funny that you think, "You would be the one that is constantly spasming from the reaming I'm giving you all the time."

Now that's funny! Good stuff.

I still own you.

Of course you do you humorless git.

Being stupid != humor. Sorry if you were misinformed.

Juan != teh funny

Juan == trolling asshole who would go out of his way to hurt anyone and stir up trouble. You knew that kind of trolling you'd provike a serious response so you did it.

I could be wrong but I don't believe I am. Your past actions only lead me to believe you are a remorsless fucker that likes to try and hurt people. In this case it is NOT acceptable nor is it "teh funny."

So with all due disrespect, fuck off.

Obviously you cannot compete with my lightning wit and intellegent ripostes.

Your only defense?

1. Accuse me of something I cannot defend like making an AC post.
2. Violence (You gonna borrow a gun from Dave and come to Columbus and kill me? Come on! You've got so much going for you in life. Why waste it all?

Is that all you've got?

Cate,

Rev has been giving you some advice. Why not take a look at some other advice he has suggested just recently:
[link]

Great job Rev. Which side of your mouth are you talking out of now?

Hey guys.... More advice! I love it, I've never had people that care wo much about me, and I don't even know you personally. You do not know how you have changed my life and thouhgts on death. You will never know how thankful I am.
~cate~

You just made my point about you along with the opinion that you are a complete shit and would in fact go around fucking with people's lives validated. While I would normally thank you for doing so, this is NOT the place for it.

Stay the fuck out of this thread prick.

Ricky, c'mon, the issue is serious, cage the fucking animal already. Elsewhere he can go off all he likes, but his trolling is not warranted here and it could cause a lot of serious problems.

Do you want to be responsible for someone who decides to kill themselves because of a fucker like Juan allowed free reign? Discretion is all I'm suggesting.

Good to hear.

I'm glad you've been able to ignore the trolls or at least understand their nature and not take their shit to heart.

How has the counselor been working out? Have you talked ith a pastor yet? Details girl! Heh.

I'm glad things are going better and turning around for you. :yay:

I now have a weekly therapist! and I love talking to her. Her name is Becky adn she's really nice. She's delt with kids like me before so I feel even more comfortable talking to her. the whole pastor thing... I am religious adn crap, and I was best friends with my priest, i talked to him alot. But he just recently got really sick and is now just retired. I don't really like the new priest... he's more of a strict guy and always follows teh rules. My other priest, father john, was a great guy, we always exchanged gifts of holidays and I would come visit him at the church every saturday and sunday... but I don't get to do that anymore. i miss him. But its okay because then I felt truly cared about today. i called my boyfriend (his parents knoww about my problem) adn he wasn't home and his mom had asked if I ws okay. i felt truly cared about by others other than my parents and stuff... you jsut had to be there to under stand why I thouhgt it was so sweet. lol. Well anyways talk to you guys later!
~cate~

...and next week on the Waltons.

If the new priest/pastor isn't doingit for you perhaps it is time to find a new home church.

Before settling down with one talk with the pastors. If they don't give you the timeof day you should go elsewhere. A good pastor knows that everyone is important and will make time for you.

Thanks for keeping us updated :)