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Posted by holyjuan on May 12, 2007 at 07:26 PM
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IndigoShaper spoke on May 12, 2007 at 07:27 PM
Juan for President?
dick2 spoke on May 15, 2007 at 05:14 PM
Yes Juan, you're most certainly on to something here. Hey, how about telling them about Brittney's breasts too!Let's give up in Iraq, because it hasn't gone the way it goes in movies we all see on TV.
holyjuan spoke on May 15, 2007 at 07:38 PM
I dunno, I saw this movie called Vietnam and it's pretty much turned out the same.
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 15, 2007 at 09:10 PM
I saw that movie. The one where a liberal Democrat got us in to a war, decided to micromanage the military like an idiot, then a Republican president bombed the shit out of the enemy, negotiated a peace agreement, prepared south vietnam's army, signed a peace agreement, and withdrew with honor. Then the North broke the agreement, invaded the South, and the south repelled the invasion successfully.
Then the Democratic party cut all funding to the South, the North invaded again, in violation of the peace agreement (again) and with Soviet and Chinese assistance, over ran our allies, executed a few hundred thousand of them, and sent a lot more to communist re-education camps, all while we did jack shit about it. And thus our first public failure in our history, of that magnitude, because a democratic party chose to not stick it out.
Yeah, let's repeat that fiasco, even though we're clearly winning. Just because a bunch of spoiled and lazy urbanites such as yourselves THINK the war is lost because they know best. Hey, no need to worry about the future implications of voluntarily giving up during the beginning of a fight with a deadly enemy. Never mind the fact that we occupied Germany for a long time, fought uprisings, etc.
In case you want to come back with "vietnam was a civil war, we had no place being there" then here's a link for you to disprove.
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- Dick
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 15, 2007 at 10:35 PM
Here's a Vietnam to Iraq comparison for ya:[link]
holyjuan spoke on May 16, 2007 at 08:36 AM
Dick, you are delusional."Yeah, let's repeat that fiasco, even though we're clearly winning."
First define what the competition is and then define what "winning" is.
I can't wait to hear this.
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 16, 2007 at 11:43 AM
The opposition is a mixture of foreign jihadi's hell bent on establishing an unelected Islamic government, and Iraqi's who are either loyal to saddam or loyal to radical Islam or loyal to their tribal chiefs.Winning is defined many ways, the best is the fact that we're killing more of them than they are of us. Another perspective is that the car bombs and islamic radicals are in Iraq, not mexico, canada, or america. The fight is over there. And then there's the elections which have occurred, the formation of a new government, and the fact that most of Iraq is peaceful. Most of the problems are in a few areas. There's also the fact that in Al Anbar province many of the tribes have chosen to side with us.
I bet your definition of winning is when Rambo takes on an entire Soviet armored division and wins. Yeah, since that type of thing hasn't happened in Iraq, we must be loosing.
In my opinion Juan, people like you are and will continue to be a major problem with the struggle against radical islam, a nuclear Iran, etc. People like you allowed south vietnam to fall, and people like you will allow Iran to get their hands on nukes, terrorists to take over entire countries, etc.
In conclusion, kiss my ass you spineless, spoiled pussy. Our grandparents from the WWII generation are probably turning in their graves.
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 16, 2007 at 11:45 AM
Oh yeah... Yo yo King Kipper... You be doin a bad job of acting like a nigger. You need to be goin to skool n practice.Peace, out.
- Dick
holyjuan spoke on May 16, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Are you talking about the opposition before we invaded Iraq or after?Are you talking about the car bombs going off in the United State and Iraq before we invaded?
How much of Iraq was peaceful before we invaded?
How many more terrorists have we created since we invaded?
You think that body count is a good way to determine winning? At the end if it's US 10,000 dead and them 10,001, did we win?
And I apologize for allowing Iran to buy nuclear secrets. My bad.
Dick, you win.
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 17, 2007 at 09:22 AM
Let us not ever go to war if it might mean people die. Let us solve all problems with diplomacy, after all, history shows it's possible.
Saddam violated the 1991 cease fire agreement, broke over a dozen UN security council resolutions, and shot at our aircraft weekly. Plus he paid palestinian families money for their children to be suicide bombers, aka "state sponsored support for terrorism". Hence we had every legal right to invade.
As for Iraq being in pain right now, well, that's what happens when a country loses a war. Perhaps we should not have fought the Japanese, because it would of meant the death of some innocent Japs? Same with the Germans? Shit, why did we fight the civil war? Why not just allow slavery to exist since death and destruction are clearly wrong.
You are a fool Juan.
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 17, 2007 at 10:16 AM
Hey Juan, why don't you also apologize for Iran hiding their enrichment program. Which is a violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty. And also apolgize for their refusal to abide by 2 rulings of the UN security council, as they are legally obligated to do as a member of the UN. Then after apologizing, lay out a good plan on how to deal with Iran, so as to ensure that no new terrorists are created, that Iran is just as peaceful after following your plan as they are peaceful now, and also ensure that a body count assures us that IF a conflict occurs that we clearly win. Lay out a realistic plan to deal with Iran diplomatically.Oh, one more thing, I don't want the cost that I pay for gas to rise. So also take that in to account.
In short, America expects 100% success, with no costs, and we expect it now, and we expect it peacefully.
"Juan for president!" He has a plan!
- Dick
holyjuan spoke on May 17, 2007 at 11:06 AM
No, the quote is never go lightly into war. And I may be a fool, but you are the one who is being fooled.If the President would have come to the American people and said that we are going to invade because Saddam "violated the 1991 cease fire agreement, broke over a dozen UN security council resolutions, and shot at our aircraft weekly. Plus he paid palestinian families money for their children to be suicide bombers, aka "state sponsored support for terrorism" we would have told him to shove it up his ass. We were told WMDs and Nukes and Terrorists. All untrue and most the admisitration knew it was untrue. We should have finished the job in Afganistan. (Oh wait, WIN the job as you would put it.)
Dumbass
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 17, 2007 at 01:51 PM
"we would have told him to shove it up his ass. " Yup, you probably would have. And that is something I consider to be a far worse problem than what we're talking about.
"never go lightly into war. " So let's accomplish that by setting a troop withdrawl, threatening to cut the war budget, and simultaneously claiming you support the troops. Let's also criticize the decision to send more troops to Iraq recently. Yeah, people like you really know how to not go "lightly into war", you sure demonstrated it with your leadership of Vietnam. I can't wait to vote for more people like that so they can "solve" the Iraq problem.
Oh yeah, nice plan you have for Iran, you wimp. Just like so many others like you, you talk a lot of shit but when it comes time to show an alternative plan, you stay quiet, because deep down inside you know you don't know crap about what you're talking about and would make yourself look like a bigger fool. Please enlighten us and show us how to stop Iran from going nuclear. Or perhaps explain why we should do nothing, because it's the best choice.
I bet when you wrote your article you had a delightful smirk on your face just you were John Stewart. When I read it, I failed to see the humor. Nice try Juan.
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 17, 2007 at 03:02 PM
One more thing..."All untrue and most the admisitration knew it was untrue."
I call bullshit. Prove that statement. You'll also need to explain why the British, Germans, French, even the Russians all thought he was working on illegal weapons projects. Perhaps you blame Bush for not being psychic? Please present your evidence of deception for all of us to review.
Saddam kicked out the weapons inspectors, lied to them, out right blocked them multiple times. Therefore it's reasonable to assume he had something to hide. Plus, if you gave me 6 months notice you will be invading, I'm sure I could kill off some top people and hide some evidence, especially since lack of evidence = proof of non-existence in the eyes of so many fools in this world.
Saddam is responsible for his actions. And Iraq is responsible for Saddams actions. Just as many innocent and good Iranians will suffer if we destroy the Iranian oil production infrastructure and blockade their ports. The people will suffer the consequences of the actions of their government, just like all other people throughout history.
While you're working on your brilliant Iran strategy, also be sure that only the government is punished, but not the citizens, IF you chose to attempt to punish them that is.
- Dick
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 18, 2007 at 12:01 PM
My momma always said...stupid is what stupid does....
- dIcK
BadKitty spoke on May 25, 2007 at 04:11 PM
I don't really give a fuck who thinks they are right. I only know this. I really don't appreciate you using the word nigger. I thought you had a more creative vocabulary than that. Unless, of course, you like to go around calling people nigger, in that case...You are more of a dick than I thought.
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 26, 2007 at 04:04 PM
That's ok BadKitty, because I don't really like the words "kiss my ass, biatch".- Dick
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 26, 2007 at 11:55 PM
Oh, and by the way... I do not have to take viagra to get it up. That rumor is bs. You guys need to lay off my personal life and stick to the issues.- Dick
Anonymous Coward spoke on May 27, 2007 at 11:31 AM
Hey Dick, can I borrow some? I don't have health insurance because I spend all my money on iPods, shoes, fake gold chains, cable tv, crack, and cheap chrome rims for my 1984 Impala. Why, oh WHY won't the government increase my welfare checks? I'll tell you why: discrimination!
- Juan
